Cacophony.  That's pretty.  What's it mean?

Harmony ,'Underneath'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

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Monique - Jan 20, 2008 4:08:15 pm PST #4385 of 10001

But I've happily learned that the reusable bags hold more than the regular shopping bags and they're easier to carry. The handles are long enough that I can carry one like a shoulder bag.

I < heart > my new reusable grocery bags! They can hold a crapton -- I got two two-liter bottles of soda and milk in there one day. I love them so much I also bought one from Target! I was pretty proud of myself until I saw some suburban mom with six of them one day. She was serious about it!


§ ita § - Jan 20, 2008 4:10:11 pm PST #4386 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have a reusable grocery bag thanks to Kat--she brought me one of my hospital care packages in one. It lives in the car, and I try and keep shopping down to one of those per trip as often as possible. However I do use disposable shopping bags to hold my recyclables, so they're not eliminated entirely.


Jesse - Jan 20, 2008 4:10:44 pm PST #4387 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I always insist I get three bags for every individual item I buy at the supermarket.

Heh. I was in a big suburb grocery store once, and they practically did that. My friend nearly had an aneurism. Actually, the same home-birth, cloth-diaper friend I mentioned yesterday.


Jesse - Jan 20, 2008 4:11:44 pm PST #4388 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I really should carry a canvas bag in my purse. I have a ton of them, but I only use them coming out of the house or out of the office.


NoiseDesign - Jan 20, 2008 4:13:05 pm PST #4389 of 10001
Our wings are not tired

I will have to look it up when I get home but there was an NPR story a few months ago about some of the pitfalls of well intentioned moves like banning all plastic grocery bags. I believe it was Ireland that did just that and found out in a later study that due to folks now buying plastic trash bin liners to replace the grocery bags they had been using to line bins that there was a significant increase in the number of trucks on the road to deliver the increased number of trash bags now selling. Since the trash bags are a thicker plastic is was a fairly impressive increase in the number of trucks and the increased pollution from the diesel engines arguably more than cancelled out the benefit of eliminating the plastic bags.


tommyrot - Jan 20, 2008 4:14:40 pm PST #4390 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Oh. My. Fucking. God.


Daisy Jane - Jan 20, 2008 4:15:26 pm PST #4391 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Dude! WTF was all that!?!


tommyrot - Jan 20, 2008 4:16:27 pm PST #4392 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

The Football gods are fucking with us?


Jesse - Jan 20, 2008 4:17:47 pm PST #4393 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I believe it was Ireland that did just that and found out in a later study that due to folks now buying plastic trash bin liners to replace the grocery bags they had been using to line bins that there was a significant increase in the number of trucks on the road to deliver the increased number of trash bags now selling.

That makes a ton of sense to me. I hardly ever buy garbage bags. But I could still use fewer plastic bags at home.


NoiseDesign - Jan 20, 2008 4:20:41 pm PST #4394 of 10001
Our wings are not tired

We work on cutting down on the number of plastic bags we bring home but use them for all kinds of things around the house. I think overall we need to reduce use of them but I'm against things like complete bans.