You know, I just... I woke up, and I looked in the mirror, and I thought, hey, what's with all the sin? I need to change. I'm... I'm dirty. I'm, I'm bad with the... sex and the envy and that, that loud music us kids listen to nowadays.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Toddson - Jan 18, 2008 11:56:44 am PST #4094 of 10001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Cashmere, have you considered having him wear mittens any time you aren't right there watching him?


msbelle - Jan 18, 2008 11:57:25 am PST #4095 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

weekend

tonight: reading through cookbooks for a menu this week, packing up a couple of boxes to mail next week, taking things to storage room

Sat/Sun: mac's swim class, some shopping for home stuff, groceries, cooking, filing, maybe listing some stuff on ebay, maybe watching netflix movie or old Heroes eps


beekaytee - Jan 18, 2008 11:57:27 am PST #4096 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

a zoo that obviously wasn't up to the challenge of keeping people safe from her.

My DExH bought (for a huge sum) a police dog from Seattle that was about to be killed for biting its second handler. Why they charged him 4k for a dog that was a day away from the needle, I'll never know.

Still, he worked with that animal for weeks and could never get near it. Finally, he hired a vet to blow-gun tranquilize it. Discovered a prong collar rusted into its neck, under its black fur. The police unit and the two handlers never seemed to notice METAL stuck in the dog's neck. Obviously not up to the task of caring for that dog.

After an operation and some rest, he became the very best dog in my ex's site/personal protection business.

The tiger should have been moved somewhere it COULD be cared for.


§ ita § - Jan 18, 2008 12:03:02 pm PST #4097 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

she was a proven danger beyond the level normally associated with big cats in captivity

I'm led to understand she wasn't beyond the level normally associated with her kind in captivity. That's why she wasn't put down when she tried to eat her keeper's arms. Eating weaker animals is her job. Stopping her from doing that is one of the zoo's many jobs.


Allyson - Jan 18, 2008 12:09:41 pm PST #4098 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I think it's better that she was killed than risk another tragedy in the hands of a zoo that obviously wasn't up to the challenge of keeping people safe from her.

I think that's where I have the disconnect, Matt. The "normal" for a tiger is to tear your head off and eat you. Since the zoo couldn't keep its contract with the tiger, the solution was to transfer the tiger elsewhere, where she could live out her days not on display or in harm's way (to either people or herself).

The solution wasn't to put the tiger down for acting according to its nature. If it cost the zoo an assload to take the tiger off display while it fixed the problem with the enclosure, then that is part of the zoo's responsibility to the animal (in case another suitable home could not be found).


Scrappy - Jan 18, 2008 12:13:54 pm PST #4099 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Oh, I forgot to mention. We may be adopting another dog! A seeing-eye dog whose owner died. The dog is too old to be retrained with another owner, but needs a good home to retire to, which we hope we can be. We go meet the pup this weekend.


Ginger - Jan 18, 2008 12:13:56 pm PST #4100 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

He will shred paper, cardboard and all sorts of things if I let him.

Perhaps he would like to take apart a pink octopus.


Allyson - Jan 18, 2008 12:15:55 pm PST #4101 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'd also like to add that I support zoos. I think when zoos are well-funded and well-run, they provide an enormous educational opportunity for humans to learn about animals they'd never otherwise see. They do a marvelous job educating the public about conservation, as well.

Just wanted to make sure I wasn't coming off as being all anti-zoo.

Circuses, not so much. Circuses need to not be doing the animal thing.


Jesse - Jan 18, 2008 12:17:52 pm PST #4102 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The dog is too old to be retrained with another owner, but needs a good home to retire to, which we hope we can be. We go meet the pup this weekend.

Aw!

My only exciting plan for the weekend is a massage on Monday! Yay long weekend! Yay massage!


Kathy A - Jan 18, 2008 12:22:52 pm PST #4103 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

My only plans for the (regular-length) weekend (no holiday on Monday for me) is working at the bookstore tomorrow, as usual. Considering it's going to be five degrees outside, with a wind-chill of about 25-30 below, I'm wondering how busy we're going to be. Either we'll be swamped with people looking to come in and get warm to escape the cold, or we'll be deader than dead with people staying home to escape the cold.