Ah, Herzog. So brilliant. So crazy.
I'm still sorry I missed Rescue Dawn while it was in theaters. And I really must watch my DVD of Aguirre.
Zoe: First rule of battle, little one. Don't ever let 'em know where you are. Mal: Whoo-hoo! I'm right here! I'm right here! You want some of me? Yeah, you do! Come on! Come on! Aaah! Whoo-hoo! Zoe: Of course, there are other schools of thought...
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Frankenbuddha - Apr 10, 2008 6:59:37 am PDT #4937 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Jessica - Apr 10, 2008 7:03:00 am PDT #4938 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
So, Herzog and Stephen Colbert, separated at birth?
Exactly.
Hayden - Apr 10, 2008 7:16:07 am PDT #4939 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
But there's no implication in the movie that Treadwell is admirable. Herzog is kind of notorious for believing that nature is out to kill you, and I think you leave the film pitying Treadwell, but not feeling like you should like him.
That's not what I said. I don't particularly like Treadwell (I mean, can you imagine spending any time with the guy?) and definitely don't admire him, but I found his story compelling, just as I found Herzog's way of presenting the story compelling. I just don't think he was particularly selfish or stupid, either. I think I used the word "delusional."
Or are you contrasting Treadwell with the guy in Into The Wild. Is he supposed to be admirable? I guess I'm not sure how we got from A to B.
I think Herzog believes that nature is indifferent to human specialness. We're just another animal to the universe. But I also think Herzog has a deeply humanist belief in the importance of mutual kindness and respect, and that he loves humanity for being crazily possessed by our dreams.
Sean K - Apr 10, 2008 7:19:37 am PDT #4940 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
I am dumbfounded by the staggering number of people who believe that nature/God/the Universe agrees with their specialness. EVRYTHING IS TRYING TO KILL YOU, PEOPLE! HERZOG IS RIGHT! ASSCAPS!!!
Miracleman - Apr 10, 2008 7:22:34 am PDT #4941 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
I am dumbfounded by the staggering number of people who believe that nature/God/the Universe agrees with their specialness. EVRYTHING IS TRYING TO KILL YOU, PEOPLE! HERZOG IS RIGHT! ASSCAPS!!!
Not me. We got a deal worked out, the Universe and I.
Sean K - Apr 10, 2008 7:24:19 am PDT #4942 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
ASSCAPS! HERZOG!!! KILL!!!!11!1!!!
Hayden - Apr 10, 2008 7:26:23 am PDT #4943 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
This reminds me how much I want one of these t-shirts: [link]
Miracleman - Apr 10, 2008 7:26:31 am PDT #4944 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
Herzog was killed by Asscaps?
Next movie: Interwebs Man.
lisah - Apr 10, 2008 7:30:44 am PDT #4945 of 10000
Punishingly Intricate
This reminds me how much I want one of these t-shirts: [link].
Gah! LOVE!
Sean K - Apr 10, 2008 7:32:50 am PDT #4946 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
As a Herzog and a Danzig fan, I need that shirt yesterday.