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Jessica - Mar 18, 2008 6:10:05 am PDT #4393 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I was telling DH in IM, it's like these people are skimming the plot synopsis and going "Hey cool! It's about a teenager with superpowers and his hot superpowered Mom who takes over the world! With big worms!"

And...okay...kind of...but...no. Kind of missing the point A LOT.


sumi - Mar 18, 2008 6:14:29 am PDT #4394 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

He can make it more like FNL. . .


Miracleman - Mar 18, 2008 6:20:19 am PDT #4395 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I was telling DH in IM, it's like these people are skimming the plot synopsis and going "Hey cool! It's about a teenager with superpowers and his hot superpowered Mom who takes over the world! With big worms!"

"Plus, no sets to build! All sand!!"


Strega - Mar 18, 2008 6:21:56 am PDT #4396 of 10000

I can't tell if it makes more or less sense that one of the producers did the Sci-Fi adaptations, too. Apparently he thinks "Producer of Dune" isn't just a credit; it's a way of life.


Jessica - Mar 18, 2008 6:23:42 am PDT #4397 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

"Plus, no sets to build! All sand!!"

Everybody wins!!


Frankenbuddha - Mar 18, 2008 7:07:54 am PDT #4398 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

"Hey cool! It's about a teenager with superpowers and his hot superpowered Mom who takes over the world! With big worms!"

I'm not sure that's what David Lynch was up to. Of course, does ANYONE really know what David Lynch was up to, or is ever up to, including him.

I must admit that Lynch's DUNE is pretty high up on my list of "love it even though it isn't remotely good" movies.


Jessica - Mar 18, 2008 7:20:34 am PDT #4399 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I must admit that Lynch's DUNE is pretty high up on my list of "love it even though it isn't remotely good" movies.

Oh, I completely agree. I think the mistake Hollywood is making is in thinking that it's possible to make a "tentpole" movie out of Dune in the first place - the problem nobody will admit to is that the reason (okay one of the reasons) the Lynch version failed as a movie was that it managed to retain a surprising amount of the book's original tone.

You simply will not get a summer blockbuster sci-fi action film out of Dune if you stay true to the book. The movie that Paramount wants isn't in there.

Of course, I'll still go see it...


Frankenbuddha - Mar 18, 2008 7:26:30 am PDT #4400 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I think the mistake Hollywood is making is in thinking that it's possible to make a "tentpole" movie out of Dune in the first place - the problem nobody will admit to is that the reason (okay one of the reasons) the Lynch version failed as a movie was that it managed to retain a surprising amount of the book's original tone.

I think you nailed it right there.

You simply will not get a summer blockbuster sci-fi action film out of Dune if you stay true to the book. The movie that Paramount wants isn't in there.

I don't think you can get a LotR type blockbuster out of it either, if that's the other route they are thinking of going. And I wouldn't put Peter Berg in charge of it if it was, as I don't think that's his forte.


Miracleman - Mar 18, 2008 7:27:17 am PDT #4401 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

You simply will not get a summer blockbuster sci-fi action film out of Dune if you stay true to the book. The movie that Paramount wants isn't in there.

Yeah, I mean...this isn't a big action thriller or comic-book movie. It's...political intrigue in, possibly, the most boring "space" setting imaginable. It's a whole planet that's a desert for fuck's sake.

As I once described reading the book: It's "Hey, cool!" followed by a hundred pages of slogging through sand, then "Ooh, interesting!" and a hundred pages of slogging through sand...

Of course, I'll still go see it...

...yeah, me too. I Am A Sucker.


Jessica - Mar 18, 2008 7:34:25 am PDT #4402 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

the most boring "space" setting imaginable. It's a whole planet that's a desert for fuck's sake.

To be fair, the desert is infested with giant killer worms.

...which doesn't make up for the premise that one of the most dangerous things anyone can do to another person on this planet filled with giant killer worms is raise their voice a little bit. And there is no way to make that not look stupid onscreen.