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Buffista Movies 6: lies and videotape  

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Hayden - Mar 14, 2008 10:24:07 am PDT #4349 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Same guy. And I guess I agree with Frank that I understood and appreciated Funny Games as an academic exercise (and yeah, Haneke's a brilliant director), but I would have gladly gnawed off one of my limbs to quit watching it.

it was nowhere near as unpleasant as IRREVERSIBLE or TROUBLE EVERY DAY.

Never saw either, but I figured those were abhorrent from the reviews. Actually, I've never seen either of the Hostels or any of the Saw movies for much the same reason.


Hayden - Mar 14, 2008 10:29:50 am PDT #4350 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Incidentally, last night we watched Apocalypto, which had an appalling interest in filming the dynamics of blunt instruments puncturing human flesh. I liked the sets and costumes in the Mayan city, although I've read they were extremely ahistorical. I did not like the manipulative use of children in peril or the aforementioned obsession with the mechanics of physical human frailty. And the blocking was utterly ridiculous. How does a group of armed men run in a perfect V with only inches between them?


Polter-Cow - Mar 14, 2008 11:51:11 am PDT #4351 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Actually, I've never seen either of the Hostels or any of the Saw movies for much the same reason.

The first two Saw movies are pretty good, actually. Not what I expected. A little graphic, but the fun is more in the mind games. The first movie especially is much more of a psychological thriller; there isn't all that much graphic violence.


Hayden - Mar 14, 2008 12:08:16 pm PDT #4352 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I'm pretty committed to avoiding them at present. Life's pretty short, and there's a whole lot of great movies I haven't seen.


Kevin - Mar 14, 2008 12:15:59 pm PDT #4353 of 10000
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I liked the first Saw movie. There's surprisingly little graphic violence in it, and it really fucks with your head. I didn't see the rest, as I don't tend to enjoy torture as a franchise. I believe in characters going through extreme events to learn about the characters; not characters going through extreme events as the entertainment value.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 14, 2008 12:22:55 pm PDT #4354 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

If for nothing else, I'm glad Apocalypto was made because it came out at about the same time as Gibson's anti-Semetic meltdown, and led to this.


Kevin - Mar 14, 2008 1:02:28 pm PDT #4355 of 10000
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Goners goes Missing In Action: [link] (I wrote it).


Frankenbuddha - Mar 14, 2008 1:11:23 pm PDT #4356 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Never saw either, but I figured those were abhorrent from the reviews.

Apart from FACES OF DEATH (despite some of the obviously fake footage, the entire concept of the movie was offensive), which an acquaintence insisted on us watching, IRREVERSIBLE was probably the most repugnant viewing experience of my life (and I've seen some pretty grotty exploitation movies in my time). Very well directed (if deliberately annoying at times), but utterly repellant.

TROUBLE EVERY DAY was just flat out disturbing, which I kinda respect in a movie. If it had been another, more appropriate actor in the Vincent Gallo role, I might put it fairly high on my recommendation list, but he was just too wrong (or too on the nose) for the part. It needed a "yuppie" not a "loony", especially since he looked like a refugee from a 70s boogie band instead of a corporate executive.


Kevin - Mar 14, 2008 1:18:14 pm PDT #4357 of 10000
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Irreversible really, truly disturbed me. I've seen all kinds of crap, and that was the first thing to make me feel bad for watching it.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 14, 2008 1:20:42 pm PDT #4358 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Irreversible really, truly disturbed me. I've seen all kinds of crap, and that was the first thing to make me feel bad for watching it.

Seriously. I've wanted to take a shower after movies I've enjoyed before (THE GRIFTERS comes to mind), but IRREVERSIBLE made me want to durmabrade my skin off, so to speak.

eta I felt violated by the movie. And I think that was the director's intention. Unlike FUNNY GAMES, I can't see a reason WHY he wanted the audience to feel so violated, except that he could.