Well isn't it pretty much canon that Kirk and Spock DIDN'T meet at starfleet academy, or on their first missions? Spock was with Pike first time out. Can't remember if Kirk had a command yet or was still in academy.

So - I'm thinking this is going to make the Sarah Connor Chronicles continuity issues look like a minor retcon by comparison. Hey - it's JJ - what do you expect?

Steve and I talked about this. We figured out...look, Steve's a big ol' ST geek. Got the "History of the Future" book and the Tech Manual and everything.

So, by the time Kirk gets ahold of Enterprise in The Original Series, she's already fifteen years old. She's been on two five years with her first captain, Robert April. Then another five years under Pike, during which Spock was his XO and held the rank of Commander. Then he stayed aboard under Kirk for Kirk's five years.

I can't remember exactly, but I think Steve and I established that Kirk was a lieutenant aboard the Farragut during April's second tour because ten years later Kirk would re-encounter some blood-sucking fog monster that he first met when he was forced to assume command of the Farragut when said fog monster ate his captain. I think. The Farragut was Kirk's first deep space assignment right out of Academy. So Spock being a Commander just a few years later would mean that either Spock was ahead of Kirk in Academy or Spock was a fast rank-climber. Which, hey...Spock. So...

Bones was already older than Dirt when Kirk assumed the center chair on Enterprise. If Bones was a contemporary of Kirk's at Academy then Starfleet must have a nifty Adult Education program, or Bones was a severe slacker.

Scotty might've been Kirk's contemporary. They seem about the same age and I can easily wank that Scotty wasn't exactly interested in fast-tracking his career if it meant he might have to leave his precious bairns.

Sulu and Chekov should not be in the movie. They are, but they shouldn't be. Especially Chekov, for two reasons: 1) he was probably just discovering that his penis was for more fun stuff than pissin' when Kirk was already in space and 2) Chekov is useless.

I still cannot get that dork tag to close.

I still cannot get that dork tag to close.

You're not a dork, you're an appreciator of cultural heritage.

t dork Surely other people must be going "But that's not right!" I bet they even have Romulans wandering around, too t / dork

t showing off own excessive dorkiness

I still cannot get that dork tag to close.

When I told Pete, who is a big ol' Star Trek geek, about this discussion, he rolled his eyes and said "There's no canonical evidence that parts of the Enterprise weren't assembled planet-side, and then the final construction took place in orbit". I just kinda stared at him while he continued to geek out at me about various trivia about the Enterprise.

oh, that is awesome.

1) he was probably just discovering that his penis was for more fun stuff than pissin' when Kirk was already in space and 2) Chekov is useless.

I don't remember if it's canon, but it does seem like on OS Trek, Chekov was fresh out of Starfleet Academy himself. He was the baby of the crew, and treated like it.

Eh, screw series continuity! Just think of the additional slash possibilities!

Not, err. That I have any sort of possible agenda with regards to the upcoming movie.

McKock!

Oh god, my eyes.

Eh, screw series continuity! Just think of the additional slash possibilities!

As Ple goes, so goes my nation.

Kock. It's why we have slash.

(Although of course Spork is also a fabulous portmanteau.)

...that said, I am entirely charmed both by Joe's conversation with his mate, and by Pete's assertions wrt the assembly of The Enterprise.

Geeks for the win!

Chekov is useless.

Oh come on. You need someone around to be tortured, beat up and otherwise abused. He's the Wesley Windham Price of the Trek-verse.

oh, that is awesome.

I think someone mis-spelled "adorable".