Buffy. When I saw you stop the world from, you know, ending, I just assumed that was a big week for you. Turns out I suddenly find myself needing to know the plural of 'apocalypse.'

Riley ,'Potential'


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Laga - Feb 19, 2008 11:11:45 am PST #4020 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Do two movies make a genre? I'm aware of only one other, Ravenous.


Jessica - Feb 19, 2008 1:47:25 pm PST #4021 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I have a deep and abiding love for Ravenous. In fact, maybe I'll watch it tonight. (Yes, we own the DVD. Go on, act surprised.)


Hayden - Feb 19, 2008 2:05:50 pm PST #4022 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Wow, synchronicity! In a very random coincidence, I just recommended Ravenous to a co-worker looking for suspense movies just this very morning. I haven't seen it in years, but something he said reminded me of it.


evil jimi - Feb 19, 2008 2:35:13 pm PST #4023 of 10000
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

Do two movies make a genre? I'm aware of only one other, Ravenous.

There's also The Killing Box starring Adrian Profit Pasdar. Which I thought wasn't too bad at all ... certainly better than the rating it gets on imdb.

You could also throw in Herschell Gordon Lewis' 2000 Maniacs, even though it's not technically set during the Civil War.


Volans - Feb 20, 2008 12:52:34 am PST #4024 of 10000
move out and draw fire

I have a deep and abiding love for Ravenous. In fact, maybe I'll watch it tonight. (Yes, we own the DVD. Go on, act surprised.)

I'll just repeat this word-for-word. And I just netflixed The Killing Box, which I'd never heard of.

It would appear that the presence of David Arquette is somehow crucial to the genre.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 20, 2008 3:47:14 am PST #4025 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Sits in the RAVENOUS loving/owning corner with Jess and Raq.

I also own the soundtrack album.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 20, 2008 5:25:17 am PST #4026 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It would appear that the presence of David Arquette is somehow crucial to the genre.

Did they have propeller ties and multicolored suspenders back in the Civil War era?


Frankenbuddha - Feb 21, 2008 4:59:13 am PST #4027 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Corwood, just wondering if you ever figured out anything coherent to say about THERE WILL BE BLOOD. I've been thinking about it since I saw it, but I'm damned if I've been able to come up with anything other than "I liked it a lot, but haven't quite decided on that ending yet." The movie seems to be drinking my milkshake, so to speak.


Hayden - Feb 21, 2008 5:21:34 am PST #4028 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I had an elaborate theory about the third of seven revelations, which involves two witnesses to the Apocalypse. From wikipedia:

Revelation 11 introduces two witnesses, who are described as "the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth". They will prophesy for twelve hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth. The witnesses will be given supernatural powers to defend themselves from attack and to smite the earth with plagues. They will "torment those who dwell on the earth" with these plagues. After they prophesy and testify for 1,260 days, the beast that comes up out of the abyss will make war with them, and overcome them and kill them. Their corpses will lie in the streets of Jerusalem for 3-1/2 days while the world watches and rejoices over their deaths. However, after the 3-1/2 days, they will be resurrected and then ascend up into heaven while their enemies look on.

But then I found that the Church Of The Third Revelation was a millennialist cult in the late 19th century.

So, without any theories about hidden meanings and metaphors, I have to agree with Phil Nugent: it's a character study about the puniness of one man's soul.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 21, 2008 5:36:05 am PST #4029 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

But then I found that the Church Of The Third Revelation was a millennialist cult in the late 19th century.

Interesting. It looks like PTA used a lot of historical details when he wrote the script. I read that he took the milkshake line verbatim from a transcript of the Teapot Dome Scandal hearings.

eta Good analysis by Phil. I always like reading his opinions, even when I don't agree with them (in this case I do).