We'll be in our bunk.

Wash ,'War Stories'


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Juliebird - Feb 11, 2008 4:35:41 pm PST #3942 of 10000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Watched 3:10 to Yuma! I liked it, I really did. Must rewatch.

Although I'm still trying to wrap my head around why Ben Wade did what he did, specifically: decide to help Dan Evans look like a hero in his son's eyes and murder his entire crew. And the most obvious answer is that he truly loved Dan. That's the one that makes sense to me. Maybe it's the fact that I'm a sucker for the truly bad guy who has that hint of redemption-potential about him and I just wanted to see Ben ride off into the sunset with Dan because of my shiny new slashtastic glasses.

I mean, Ben was a bad bad man, and he had his lines he wouldn't cross, and then he had those lines that could be crossed on a whim. Fascinating character, and I rooted for him even though side by side with my love was "OMG, psycho!". Even at their first meeting, he was offering courtesies that I was surprised at. Was it because he met Dan as a father, with his sons behind him? He shoots one of his own crew for endangering them, and yet he approaches Dan easy as you please and polite to boot, and returns the horses. Again, fascintating.

And Dan. I didn't feel horrified or terribly sad that he'd died, because he got everything he wanted. His son respected him, his family was taken care of, his land was safe, which meant that his youngest was safe and secure in the land that would keep him healthy(ish). And again there was a complicated and shifting reasoning behind what he was doing, and I didn't quite understand it until he mentioned Doc Potter's death in regards to not giving up at the point of suicide.

And omg, you killed Wash again, you bastards! Small part, and not a lot of full character allowed to peak out until the electrocution where he steps forward and declares it immoral, and then I truly loved him as a character, because it was brave, and principled, and then Wash is dead. Again. After being heroic. Again. Bastards.

Ben Foster was deliciously insane and obsessed. I actually felt more sad for him when he realized that Ben was going to kill him, than I did for Dan's own death. His character Charlie was so devoted to Ben, everything he did was for Ben, and he fucked up. His love for Ben got him killed.

By the time the sheriff and his posse were hired to get Ben to the train at the end, I was giggling at each deputy filing through the screen crying out "dead, dead, dead! You're next!" I just didn't expect it to happen all at once!

One thing that bugged is that the accents seemed to slip in and out, at least in the beginning. And the casting of the banker, whom I can't place, seemed... he grew on me, and I suppose maybe it worked for the character, but he seemed like a kid playing dress-up. Maybe because in my minds eye I'm still seeing him as a young'n, or the actor just really does look like a little kid wearing big kid pants. It was kinda like seeing Anna Faris in Brokeback Mountain. No matter the talent, they just stuck out like sore thumbs to me as "one of these things isn't like the others".

I'm not the best at psychoanalyzing characters or sussing out the validity of their actions and choices, so maybe some of my confusion is because they weren't so well drawn, or maybe there's more to them that I'm not getting yet. I'm hoping for the latter.


sumi - Feb 12, 2008 8:56:53 am PST #3943 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Christopher Eccleston in G.I. Joe movie!!!????!!!


tommyrot - Feb 12, 2008 11:52:29 am PST #3944 of 10000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Belly-dancing Catherine Zeta-Jones's mesmerising turn in new Houdini film

With lots of picture of her dressed for her role....


lisah - Feb 13, 2008 3:18:45 pm PST #3945 of 10000
Punishingly Intricate

I just started watching Eastern Promises and I need to know before I go on. Does the baby die??? also does Naomi Watts' character get any smarter? She and her mom are making me crazy.


Cashmere - Feb 13, 2008 4:06:30 pm PST #3946 of 10000
Now tagless for your comfort.

lisah, no and yes. It has a happy ending. Mostly.


lisah - Feb 13, 2008 4:16:22 pm PST #3947 of 10000
Punishingly Intricate

okay! Good to know.


le nubian - Feb 13, 2008 6:18:44 pm PST #3948 of 10000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Cashmere and I differ.

No definitely to the first question. I would actually say no to the second question as well. Her character drove me batshit.


Juliebird - Feb 13, 2008 6:41:41 pm PST #3949 of 10000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Eastern Promiese: see, as a movie-goer, yes, I'm screaming "No! No!" at her, but what I got was that she walked naively into the situation, believing the best in people, and then she found herself in a sticky situation that she tried as desperately as she politely could to steer herself through when she finally realized it wasn't kosher, and acted rather bravely (which can be read as stupidly) through the rest of it. Stupid but brave and prinicipled, is how I saw it.


le nubian - Feb 13, 2008 6:49:35 pm PST #3950 of 10000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

she found herself in a sticky situation

yeah, but her uncle was warning her the WHOLE time. she drove me nuts.


Polter-Cow - Feb 13, 2008 8:55:52 pm PST #3951 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I just got back from Jumper. It's funny how it has the same title as one of my favorite books, and some of the characters have the same names, but it bears no resemblance to the book I love at all. (And I knew this going in. What I was not prepared for was that it was even less like the book than I expected.)