It's all about choices, Faith. The ones we make, and the ones we don't. Oh, and the consequences. Those are always fun.

Angelus ,'Smile Time'


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askye - Jan 22, 2008 12:33:17 pm PST #3558 of 10000
Thrive to spite them

I'm really upset too and sadden. He was so talented and he was one of the actors that I liked to read about it.

If it is suicide,that's what it sounded like they were hinting at, I hope people don't say cruel things. Sometimes they do, saying oh he was selfish or how could he. Which isn't really cruel, but. I'm so sad for him and Michelle Williams and his little girl.


Polter-Cow - Jan 22, 2008 12:38:27 pm PST #3559 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I think celebrity grieving is a difficult topic. Of course it's strange and offputting for the family to have a whole whack of people grieving that don't know him at all. But with artists, they put so much of themselves out there for us to consume, I think it's natural for us to feel the loss.

Yeah, I was thinking, you know, people die all the time, in worse ways, even younger, and we don't really feel the hit. But with artists...well, you put it very well, thanks.


Amy - Jan 22, 2008 12:42:45 pm PST #3560 of 10000
Because books.

Yeah, I'm really shaken up. It came out of nowhere. Like JZ, I was expecting to see him in so much more post-Joker. It's crazy.

So much this.


Nutty - Jan 22, 2008 12:43:09 pm PST #3561 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I think it's similar to what happens when politicians die in plane crashes (which they seem to do disturbingly often). People lard their hopes or imaginations into the human figure, and have to mourn the "death" of that imagination as much as they mourn the death of the real person whom they never met.

My coworkers in 2004, who had never even lived in the same state as Paul Wellstone (and thus didn't have direct reasons to lard their hopes into him), flipped their lids when he died.


le nubian - Jan 22, 2008 12:45:06 pm PST #3562 of 10000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

BTW, he was found in an apartment owned by Mary-Kate Olsen.

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Sue - Jan 22, 2008 12:45:46 pm PST #3563 of 10000
hip deep in pie

CNN is now reporting that it's a suspected suicide. Also, that it was Mary-Kate Olsen's apartment he was found in.

It's terrible, and heartbreaking.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 22, 2008 12:52:57 pm PST #3564 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

le nubian's link makes mention of him and Michelle Williams having split up recently, which maybe makes more sense of the situation.

I'm sad... I thought he was one of the people who was going to make it though all the Hollywood BS undamaged.


Kevin - Jan 22, 2008 12:55:16 pm PST #3565 of 10000
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

They split up last year sometime.

About 22,000 or so people die of drug overdoses per year in the US. It raises at about 15% each year. One of the key sources is actually opioid pain killers -- oxycodone, hydrocodone, methadone and fentanyl, which are legally prescribed pain killers. But can also be taken out of prescription for thrills. The rest is made up of heroin, pretty much.


Laga - Jan 22, 2008 12:59:09 pm PST #3566 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

this may seem callous but I am so mad at Heath Ledger right now. He was filming The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus with Terry Gilliam.


Sue - Jan 22, 2008 1:01:46 pm PST #3567 of 10000
hip deep in pie

Lainey is certainly intimating that Ledger had a big drug habit.

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