This is not funny. This... this is a morality tale about the evils of sake.

Simon ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 52: Playing with a full deck?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


JZ - Jul 02, 2007 9:18:23 am PDT #5909 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Despite her traumatic experiences, the patient was keen to undertake further removal of pubic hair.

Which reminds me of a freak-ass flamewar in the Salon letters column a few months ago, all about goolie landscaping. There was this huge, absurd generational divide, with most folks in their thirties or older saying "I prune/shave/wax my goolie because I like it or I can't be bothered or I'm a guy who kind of prefers it one way or the other but not enough to bellyache about it to the woman I'm with if she feels differently," and most folks under thirty saying things like "I just can't stand my hairy goolie, it's so unkempt or Oh, let me tell you, it's just basic hygiene. Neither I nor any other guy I know would even think of going down on a woman whose goolie wasn't waxed, because clearly she's a bag of filth who can't be bothered with any kind of grooming."

The over/under 30 divide was deep and wide and extremely consistent over something like 200 letters. And frankly, it kind of scared me about what feminine personal grooming expectations poor Matilda is going to have to contend with by the time she reaches maturity.

And if any under-30 Buffista wants to pipe up and reassure me that these in fact were a bunch of nutbars and that most sane under-30s don't in fact equate nude goolies with handwashing and flossing, I'd be much reassured.

And now I'm all curious about which side of the age divide that multiply-infected nitwit falls on.


Dana - Jul 02, 2007 9:19:14 am PDT #5910 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

And if any under-30 Buffista wants to pipe up and reassure me

I was totally going to pipe up until I remembered I'm not under 30 any more. Crap.


Allyson - Jul 02, 2007 9:19:14 am PDT #5911 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Why is everyone not posting?

I don't have anything to say that isn't "book! book! book!"

So I give you a break.


Steph L. - Jul 02, 2007 9:20:44 am PDT #5912 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Oh, let me tell you, it's just basic hygiene. Neither I nor any other guy I know would even think of going down on a woman whose goolie wasn't waxed, because clearly she's a bag of filth who can't be bothered with any kind of grooming."

Heh. I want to ask those women about their boyfriends' hairy balls and the bag-of-filth connection.

I mean, seriously -- do none of those women *bathe*? That pretty much takes care of it.


Scrappy - Jul 02, 2007 9:21:05 am PDT #5913 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I use i"rook." I used to use gyp as a noun all the time, but have never been sure if it is really considered a derogatory term.


Trudy Booth - Jul 02, 2007 9:23:00 am PDT #5914 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

That was a frightening discussion, JZ. Truly.

Between the assertions that nude goolie was tantamount to pedophila (dude, they look QUITE DIFFERENT even without fuzz) and the people who acted like you might as well not brush your teeth as not remove every piece of hair beneath your eyebrows...

I'm sure by the time Matilda is old enough we'll just use bluetooth cerebral cortex implants for sexual gratification anyway.


JZ - Jul 02, 2007 9:24:29 am PDT #5915 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Heh. I want to ask those women about their boyfriends' hairy balls and the bag-of-filth connection.

It was just creepy and arrogant and utterly bergoggling, and a ton of over-30 women immediately posted asking about ball maintenance, which apparently is taken care of with bathing, because, you know, the balls are just so naturally tidy or whatever. And, of course, hairy balls look just fine. Nothing wrong with grown-up hair Down There as long as you're a guy, but if you're a gal it's just sloppy and icky.

I really kind of wanted to hunt them all down and punch them in the face, but Hec gave me his Fetishes and Cultural Expectations 101 lecture and talked me down. Though I still kinda feel someone ought to punch them all in the face.


Pix - Jul 02, 2007 9:26:42 am PDT #5916 of 10001
The status is NOT quo.

I really kind of wanted to hunt them all down and punch them in the face, but Hec gave me his Fetishes and Cultural Expectations 101 lecture and talked me down. Though I still kinda feel someone ought to punch them all in the face.

Yes, this. Too many high school girls talk about waxing like a natural aspect of their beauty routine, and it freaks me the heck out. I do have to remember, though, that I am now working in LA. Not exactly the best gauge for...well, anything, really.


sarameg - Jul 02, 2007 9:26:57 am PDT #5917 of 10001

Too busy to post much.

I keep having to re-calculate my age, as I have a birthday coming up, and I can't seem to remember my age correctly. So whenever it's in context (uh, am I over 30?) I have to do the math and then I think huh, I keep forgetting I'm 31. And that I'm turning 32. And ...wait, did I do the math right, that sounds wrong. Huh.

I have no idea why these ages seem wrong. It's not denial, or shock or anything. They just seem wrong, mathematically.


Pix - Jul 02, 2007 9:27:31 am PDT #5918 of 10001
The status is NOT quo.

I have that same reaction to being 32, sarameg.