Illyria: We cling to what is gone. Is there anything in this life but grief? Wesley: There's love. There's hope...for some. There's hope that you'll find something worthy...that your life will lead you to some joy...that after everything...you can still be surprised. Illyria: Is that enough? Is that enough to live on?

'Shells'


Natter 52: Playing with a full deck?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Jun 30, 2007 5:03:43 am PDT #5648 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

No one was out in my high school. I can't imagine what it would have been like. A friend of mine (who came out in college) was taunted relentlessly for his effeminate manners. Hell, even the band teacher made fun of him and implied he was gay. The band teacher, btw, was closeted himself. Bastard.


Laura - Jun 30, 2007 5:15:33 am PDT #5649 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I knew people that were gay in HS. But that was the 60s. They were open about such things. My son will refer to someone at school as "gay" and I will start to give him the stinkeye because I don't allow this as a negative word. Then he'll quickly say, "I mean really, as in he has a boyfriend." So in the know. I've overheard them talking about bi kids too.


Kathy A - Jun 30, 2007 5:39:01 am PDT #5650 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Nobody was out in my high school, but a bunch of people came out within a few years of graduation. Most of them were not surprises to their classmates.

IcutecatphotoN, someone has a kitty crack pad.


Consuela - Jun 30, 2007 5:40:42 am PDT #5651 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

It just seems younger now than it did, say, when I was 14.

Yeah. Also, I knew no one who was gay in high school in the late 70s/early 80s. Hell, I wasn't even entirely sure what it meant until college. Small New England town, where everyone was white and straight--of course now, I can look back and say, "oh, G is definitely lesbian!"

So, yeah, a different world for my nieces, who also live in a very diverse and progressive city.


Pix - Jun 30, 2007 5:46:01 am PDT #5652 of 10001
The status is NOT quo.

I has a girlfriend and is experimenting with bisexuality.

I have been lolcatting far too often.


Sheryl - Jun 30, 2007 5:50:50 am PDT #5653 of 10001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Back from taking Boots to the vet for her followup checkup. She's gained 1/4 pound since April, which is good. Now to wait for the test results..


DavidS - Jun 30, 2007 6:03:43 am PDT #5654 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think Rebecca Lizard was pretty sure of her sexual preferences by the time she was 14.


Pix - Jun 30, 2007 6:09:37 am PDT #5655 of 10001
The status is NOT quo.

I think Rebecca Lizard was pretty sure of her sexual preferences by the time she was 14.
I was too, though growing up in a WASPy New England small town, I too never EVER would have admitted it, even to myself. It's really amazing, when I think about it. I turned 14 in 1989 and graduated in 1993, and the level of homophobia was staggering. In my experience as a teacher, high school kids now are a lot more likely to be open about their sexuality than they ever were when I was in school. Not that being bi or gay is easy now, but I am so glad that it has gotten at least thinkable.


Laura - Jun 30, 2007 6:44:39 am PDT #5656 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

From what I have seen at my schools the kids seem pretty open about it. Things are a lot different as far as open discussion goes.

We had a number of adults in our neighborhood and my parents circle of friends that I knew were couples before I was old enough to give it much thought. We didn't talk about such things! But it wasn't considered odd either.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 30, 2007 6:49:01 am PDT #5657 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think our school had one REALLY out, Alec Mapa-level flaming gay student, with all the others (including yours truly) remaining closeted. Oh wait, no, our Ashton Kutcheralike idiot that totalled six cars before graduation was involuntarily outed.

On my walk/run this morning I realized that Imogen Heap comes up on my nano every time I reach a certain point on the route, despite all the songs being shuffled. I hope this doesn't mean Mischa Barton is going to pop up from behind the Veterans Plaza sign and bust a cap in my ass.