Spike? It's you. It's really you! My therapist thought I was holding on to false hope, but…I knew you'd come back. You're like…you're like Gandalf the White, resurrected from the pit of the Balrog, more beautiful than ever. Oh…he's alive Frodo. He's alive.

Andrew ,'Damage'


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Jon B. - Dec 28, 2002 12:45:33 pm PST #2404 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I only asked because I'd never heard of that particular progression from Beta to 1.0 to 2.0. I thought maybe you knew something I didn't. ;)

Seriously, the difference between "Search thread #__" and "Search [thread names dropbox]" is very small. I would be against including the former at all. Thread number is very user un-friendly.


§ ita § - Dec 28, 2002 1:25:39 pm PST #2405 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Bingo! I just got CVS working.

Oy, they're lucky they're the only game in town.

Or maybe I should have read the docs first.

Anyhoo. I have to do a little more experimentation, and then we may be good to go.

Jon, I copied the current site code onto the test -- if you didn't grab the code beforehand, I have it.

Now, we have issues here. There's a repository, where the test code is controlled. This is good and necessary. But we need a testing methodology too.

Jon -- you up on CVS?

Who else do we have as volunteer coders?


Jon B. - Dec 28, 2002 1:28:43 pm PST #2406 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I know nothing about CVS, except that's where I buy shaving cream and razor blades.


§ ita § - Dec 28, 2002 1:38:40 pm PST #2407 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You might want to start reading. [link] is kinda overwhelming. One will need a client to access the server (http://wincvs.org), and here's a howto for the WinCVS client. Karl can give you login info.

I've already imported the files, and now I'm just trying to work through some more details.


Rob - Dec 28, 2002 1:40:37 pm PST #2408 of 10000

t volunteers

I can test drive CVS for you, too, if you want. I'm all about CVS.


Jon B. - Dec 28, 2002 1:57:51 pm PST #2409 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Should I be reading "the Cederqvist," then?

wincvs.org isn't resolving for me.


§ ita § - Dec 28, 2002 2:00:13 pm PST #2410 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Huh. Try [link]


Jon B. - Dec 28, 2002 2:01:46 pm PST #2411 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Nope. Not working either. I'll try again later. Maybe a problem with my nameserver.


John H - Dec 28, 2002 2:02:55 pm PST #2412 of 10000

I just tried to do a search for the term V!Giles and got hits for every reference to Giles. Should I put quotes around it or can I not search for the "!"?

I imagine that's because the indexing function splits posts up into "words", and one of the keys for the end of a word would normally be an exclamation or question mark.

I'm saying "words", not to do the "I" "am" "not" "ironic" thing, but because I found out very early when playing search engines that What Your Programming Language Thinks Is A Word May Vary, and indeed may vary between languages. Unfortunately we have invented our own ideolect where "Vamp!Giles" is a word, but MySQL doesn't think so.

Which reminds me, ita was talking about the obscure algorithm which determines which document comes to the top in a search.

I imagine it's actually something like the classic:

W(T,D)=tf(T,D)*log(DN/df(T))

where tf(T, D) is the term frequency of T in D. DN is the total number of documents df(T) is the sum of frequencies of T in every document considered or as it called the document frequency of T.

which translates to "the score for the term in the document, multiplied by it's uniqueness" -- it's not just that the term appears, but that it doesn't appear frequently anywhere else, that makes it score highly.


John H - Dec 28, 2002 2:04:34 pm PST #2413 of 10000

Oh, and Jon -- what's the story with CSS and your sucked-thread design?

I didn't look at the source before to see how the style sheet was handled.