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Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


lisah - Dec 06, 2006 10:20:57 am PST #4774 of 10007
Punishingly Intricate

Speaking of people I can't feel an ounce of sympathy for:

I KNOW! I was so very much wanting to find their houses and leave notes "Grow the fuck up and stop wasting your county's resources!"

sheesh...people.

I had unsatisfactory TJ frozen bowl for lunch. It was the chicken w/ spinach & rice one. Totally soupy and bland. bah. And now I am hungry again.


Nutty - Dec 06, 2006 10:23:17 am PST #4775 of 10007
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I'd call it wilful ignorance as well; and, even if it weren't on important issues (which it is), I'd put my stompin' boots on about it. Because, speaking as someone whose whole state was a write-off to his party in the 2004 election, it sucks to find out that the people in charge don't give a shit about something important to you.

Like, okay, yes, bombs and dead people and everything, but, it's just rude. I'm sure Clinton didn't give a shit about thousands and thousands of things while he was in office, but he had the tact to smile and nod, you know?

Break international laws, shoot, maybe you had a good reason and I just don't know about it. Break the laws of propriety: my foot in your ass.


tommyrot - Dec 06, 2006 10:23:41 am PST #4776 of 10007
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

It's criminal.

There is that.

He's done half a dozed different things which he could be impeached for, any one of which has done far more damage to this country than a blowjob. And he's literally committed war crimes as defined by the international community.


tommyrot - Dec 06, 2006 10:28:32 am PST #4777 of 10007
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Connie, I hope you don't feel ganged-up-on. There's nothing wrong with feeling sympathy for an individual.


tommyrot - Dec 06, 2006 10:30:47 am PST #4778 of 10007
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

A great comic strip: [link]


Fred Pete - Dec 06, 2006 10:34:10 am PST #4779 of 10007
Ann, that's a ferret.

I'm actually comparing to two past presidents with terrible reputations -- Herbert Hoover and Jimmy Carter. Hoover didn't create the Great Depression, and Carter didn't cause the energy crisis of '79. OK, I'm not going to say they did great jobs of resolving the problems, but the problems weren't of their own making. And not exactly forecast.

I'll agree that the current administration didn't cause 9/11 or Hurricane Katrina. But they chose to go into Iraq under largely false pretenses. They created a messed-up FEMA that couldn't respond to Katrina -- and it's a pretty safe bet to predict that at least one hurricane will strike the U.S. mainland in any given year.


Trudy Booth - Dec 06, 2006 10:35:15 am PST #4780 of 10007
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

It's not merely willfull ignorance, its in the name of greed.

He's happy to look the other way in order to enrich the guys who enriched him and will do so again once he's left office.


bon bon - Dec 06, 2006 10:42:57 am PST #4781 of 10007
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I'm actually comparing to two past presidents with terrible reputations -- Herbert Hoover and Jimmy Carter. Hoover didn't create the Great Depression, and Carter didn't cause the energy crisis of '79. OK, I'm not going to say they did great jobs of resolving the problems, but the problems weren't of their own making. And not exactly forecast.

With no disrespect to Carter, Hoover was an amazing individual in the public and private spheres before being elected. This, from wikipedia, is notable in comparison to GWB:

In the spring of 1927, the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927 broke the banks and levees of the Mississippi River. The governors of six states along the Mississippi asked for Herbert Hoover in the emergency, so President Coolidge sent Hoover to mobilize state and local authorities, militia, army engineers, Coast Guard, and the American Red Cross. He set up health units, with a grant from the Rockefeller Foundation, to work in the flooded regions for a year. These workers stamped out malaria, pellagra and typhoid fever from many areas. His work during the flood brought Herbert Hoover to the front page of newspapers almost everywhere.


Connie Neil - Dec 06, 2006 10:45:15 am PST #4782 of 10007
brillig

Connie, I hope you don't feel ganged-up-on. There's nothing wrong with feeling sympathy for an individual.

Hell, no. I keep having to smack down the self-righteous part that wants to feel superior, because I agree with 99% of what all of you are saying. The size of the offense does make sympathy difficult.

Hubby doesn't like Carter, but that's because he agreed to give up the Panama Canal. Hubby agrees that Carter is probably the best damned ex-president that ever was. Watching Carter on TV, as old as he is, with exact dates and figures for whatever he's discussing right to hand, is a joy.


Ginger - Dec 06, 2006 10:56:47 am PST #4783 of 10007
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I do wish Carter could have gone directly to the ex-presidency and skipped that messy president part. While I like the idea of a president who's not part of the Washington establishment, Carter's administration was an example of how that can go terribly wrong.