Reavers ain't men. Or they forgot how to be. Now they're just nothing. They got out to the edge of the galaxy, to that place of nothing, and that's what they became.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - Dec 04, 2006 2:18:19 pm PST #4471 of 10007
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I can't believe there was this whole conversation, and no one brought up coffee!! That's a lot of brouhaha to go through to get through the ultimate deliciousness.

Much less figuring out that a weasely endproduct is worth brewing!


Jessica - Dec 04, 2006 2:22:47 pm PST #4472 of 10007
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I can't believe there was this whole conversation, and no one brought up coffee!!

I think because the history of coffee is better documented (at least online) than the history of artichokes. Goats getting high ---> goatherders getting high --> "hey these coffee-balls are kind of nast, what if we just boiled it?" --> Starbucks


Jessica - Dec 04, 2006 2:24:14 pm PST #4473 of 10007
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Ooh, and relatedly, check out this NES controller-controlled espresso machine!


Jesse - Dec 04, 2006 2:26:46 pm PST #4474 of 10007
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I think because the history of coffee is better documented (at least online) than the history of artichokes. Goats getting high ---> goatherders getting high --> "hey these coffee-balls are kind of nast, what if we just boiled it?" --> Starbucks

A-ha. I feel bad for the people who ate the boiled coffee-balls before they realized all the good stuff was in the water. But what about the roasting?


Cass - Dec 04, 2006 2:29:03 pm PST #4475 of 10007
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

As much as brains squick me, I can't see any people who had to hunt and kill their own food turning up their noses at any part of any animal.
And the brains are treasure trove caloricly speaking. Prehistoric power bars. In a gooey way.


Theodosia - Dec 04, 2006 2:29:26 pm PST #4476 of 10007
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

People were already preparing medicines by various methods include drying and smoking (as in smoked ham, etc), so roasting would just be one more step to try, really. I suppose we owe a debt to the shamans and would-be wizards and witches of pre-history.


Jesse - Dec 04, 2006 2:29:30 pm PST #4477 of 10007
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Ooh, and relatedly, check out this NES controller-controlled espresso machine!

I thought, Oh, is that what Nespresso is all about? (Note that the website plays music, but it also includes George Clooney, so it may be worth it.)


Jessica - Dec 04, 2006 2:29:53 pm PST #4478 of 10007
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

But what about the roasting?

Dries the beans out so they don't go rancid.


Jessica - Dec 04, 2006 2:32:47 pm PST #4479 of 10007
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Oh, is that what Nespresso is all about?

Ha! We had a Nepresso machine in our flat in Paris -- we stumbled into their store the second day we were there completely by accident and were very impressed by its swankiness, given that all they sold were espresso pods. (Dark wood, dim lighting, staff all in suits. Pictures of George Clooney everywhere.) But it turned out to be an excellent discovery, as the previous tenants had left behind wussy light-roasted pods, so we were able to pick up some better ones.


Jesse - Dec 04, 2006 2:39:59 pm PST #4480 of 10007
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Dries the beans out so they don't go rancid.

I'm just saying, it's a lot of steps to figure out. Hardly anything gets roasted, boiled, and then thrown away.