I've really got to learn to just do the damage and get out of town. It's the 'stay and gloat' that gets me every time.

Ethan Rayne ,'Potential'


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Hil R. - Nov 18, 2002 9:41:05 am PST #330 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Why do Jesus and Moses have honorary plurality, just because they're shiny?

Try saying Moses's or Jesus's. Your tongue gets stuck in a sort of Moseseseseses thing. It's because of the double s already at the end.


P.M. Marc - Nov 18, 2002 9:42:08 am PST #331 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

IIRC, AP style for single possessive proper nouns ending with s is 's.

I know it annoys me, and that it's something that's shifted since I started writing, because I know damned well that all my things had ---s' written on them. (I think a shift in rule that affects your name is more annoying than any other.)


Jesse - Nov 18, 2002 9:43:15 am PST #332 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

People at work use s' -- our ED's name ends with s -- and it irks me, because then it looks like his name is plural, if you know what I mean.


Rebecca Lizard - Nov 18, 2002 9:43:55 am PST #333 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

Okay, so, it's not just an obscure religious act of honor. So any other English word with the same s-situation would have the same deal?

This is so fucking weird. I've never noticed I was off. Think of all the papers and stories I've written with the wrong things in! I want to march back to the nuns that taught me and complain.


P.M. Marc - Nov 18, 2002 9:44:48 am PST #334 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Technically, my name is plural, so I still s' any labels I may make.


Hil R. - Nov 18, 2002 9:47:09 am PST #335 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

So any other English word <tried to think of one, fails> with the same s-situation would have the same deal?

Yep. But I don't think there are any other English words with that pattern. At least, no terribly common ones.


erikaj - Nov 18, 2002 9:47:38 am PST #336 of 10001
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-

I think I was always taught 's, but then I have spent a fair amount of time with AP Style, so it could be my thinking is muddy. So, from me it would be, say, Pleiades' Wesley fics.


Jesse - Nov 18, 2002 9:48:35 am PST #337 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Ah, but I'd say it's not plural, when it's your name. (Now I have John Malkovich in my head going, "It's my head! ") I mean, unless you contain multitudes. Which is cool too.


Susan W. - Nov 18, 2002 9:50:46 am PST #338 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I know it annoys me, and that it's something that's shifted since I started writing, because I know damned well that all my things had ---s' written on them. (I think a shift in rule that affects your name is more annoying than any other.)

Huh. And here I thought I was the one being the dinosaur sticking to an oudated version of the rule, much as still I use the serial comma whenever I can get by with it. It just flows better and looks more symmetrical, dammit! Anyway, I learned the 's unless it's Moses or Jesus (or, presumably, Isis) from Strunk & White, and it's only recently I've noticed the s' usage.


P.M. Marc - Nov 18, 2002 10:06:03 am PST #339 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Ah, but I'd say it's not plural, when it's your name.

Well, it's a bit like being named Castles or Books or Teacups.

Where you aren't, but the name obviously is.