Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Fred Pete - Feb 08, 2013 9:13:26 am PST #20381 of 28564
Ann, that's a ferret.

This must have some debate-worthy items on it.

A few things come to mind:

I'd like to see why the author included certain less well-known works/events. I seem to lack the poetry appreciation gene, so I really can't judge the worthiness of "The Song of the Shirt." And I really can't say why it belongs in a 50-Greatest list.

As for Shakespeare, I'd probably drop his sonnets in favor of his output of 1595: A Midsummer Night's Dream, Romeo and Juliet, and Richard II. At the dawn of modern drama, he wrote one of the world's greatest comedies, one of the world's greatest tragedies, and a superior history play -- all in one year. Nothing against the sonnets, but Shakespeare didn't play a role in inventing the sonnet.

Amazon or the Internet/Web or the word processor? Electronic sales/distribution or electronic publicatino or electronic creation? I'd argue that the word processor has as much right as the typewriter to a spot in the top 50.

Hec, what do you think belongs in the list from the 1966-1990 era? LOTR comes to mind, kicking off a huge wave of SF/fantasy, but that was published in 1954-55.


Polter-Cow - Feb 08, 2013 9:48:49 am PST #20382 of 28564
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Twilight Fanfic Strikes Again: Beautiful Bastard Gets a Book Deal.

E.L. James' 50 Shades of Grey opened the door, and now Christina Lauren's Beautiful Bastard is sexily sashaying through it. Christina Lauren is actually two people — Christina Hobbs and Lauren Billings* — who landed a book deal with Simon & Schuster after the popularity of their fanfic The Office** exploded online. Renamed and given sexy new packaging, Beautiful Bastard is about a kinky businessman and his sexxxy intern.

The first chapter is up for preview. Le sigh.


Steph L. - Feb 08, 2013 10:29:46 am PST #20383 of 28564
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

God damn, WHY haven't I started writing kinky fiction?

(Partly because I just don't take Teh Kink as seriously and utterly humorlessly as the current rash of fiction makes it out to be. I mean, it *can* be serious, but I have to say, we spend a lot of our time laughing our asses off at each other. Sadly, that makes a lot of people think we're Doin It Rong. So I probably couldn't write a book about it.)


Tom Scola - Feb 08, 2013 10:34:55 am PST #20384 of 28564
hwæt

I know a Lauren Billings. She was a bartender at my regular bar, and then she moved to Tahoe to play poker.


megan walker - Feb 08, 2013 2:37:15 pm PST #20385 of 28564
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

This must have some debate-worthy items on it

I don't understand why a German novel that I've never heard of (WG Sebald: Vertigo, 1990) is on that list. Did it have some impact on Anglo-American lit?


Amy - Feb 08, 2013 6:56:14 pm PST #20386 of 28564
Because books.

Just started Gone Girl -- maybe four chapters in -- and I love it. She's an incredible writer. I'm a little wary about hating the plot of it toward the end, because there was a pretty divisive twist, right?

a German novel that I've never heard of (WG Sebald: Vertigo, 1990)

I didn't even know it was German, just that I'd never heard of it, and didn't care enough to click. I didn't disagree with a whole lot of, though, so maybe it was important?

I do think choosing just fifty anything from the whole history of literate is tough, and she might have been better off choosing only books, or only cultural events.


megan walker - Feb 08, 2013 7:07:00 pm PST #20387 of 28564
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I'm a little wary about hating the plot of it toward the end, because there was a pretty divisive twist, right?

To say the least .

I didn't even know it was German, just that I'd never heard of it, and didn't care enough to click. I didn't disagree with a whole lot of, though, so maybe it was important?

Yeah, given this

an attempt to identify some of the hinge moments in our literature – a composite of significant events, notable poems, plays, and novels, plus influential deaths

it's actually a pretty good list, but I think I'd like to see at least a small attempt to explain why a book is a turning point.

Even as little as "The Moonstone": First detective novel, "Life of Johnson": The epitome of biography, etc.


Ginger - Feb 08, 2013 7:23:49 pm PST #20388 of 28564
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

This must have some debate-worthy items on it

It's not a bad list, but it's really incomplete without "The Murders in the Rue Morgue," the first detective story, and something by Wells and/or Verne for SF. "The Song of the Shirt" is one of the first well-known works about the treatment of the working poor, but I would have gone with Dickens. I think it also needs Little Women as a milestone in realistic literature for young people; and Penguin paperbacks, which made literature much more widely available.


le nubian - Feb 08, 2013 7:24:37 pm PST #20389 of 28564
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Amy,

I don't know what to say without spoiling. I will just say that the book is a trip and a half. I truly disliked the ending and I think megan liked it.


megan walker - Feb 08, 2013 8:00:30 pm PST #20390 of 28564
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I think megan liked it.

I'm not sure liked is the right word, but I thought it was the perfect ending, the one that made the most sense.