Gunn: The final score can't be rigged. I don't care how many players you grease, that last shot always comes up a question mark. But here's the thing. You never know when you're taking it. It could be when you're duking it out with the Legion of Doom, or just crossing the street deciding where to have brunch. So you just treat it like it was up to you—the world in balance—'cause you never know when it is.

'Underneath'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


brenda m - Dec 15, 2009 2:12:27 pm PST #10669 of 28736
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

And I was kind of stuck in, "Well, yes, but they're entertaining horrible people."

That I can live with. I've started and not finished too many books recently where I was more like "I wouldn't want to spend two minutes around these people in real life, I'm not doing that on the page either."


§ ita § - Dec 15, 2009 2:14:00 pm PST #10670 of 28736
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm looking forward to partaking of American Psycho in one form or another, and I understand there's no liking to be had there. I also liked A Clockwork Orange and there's no feeling for Alex until possibly the end.


flea - Dec 15, 2009 2:41:32 pm PST #10671 of 28736
information libertarian

I could never watch Seinfeld because everyone annoyed me so much. Not that that was a book.


erikaj - Dec 15, 2009 2:59:59 pm PST #10672 of 28736
"Somewhere in this building is our talent." Toby Ziegler, my spirit animal

I don't know...in some cases, but not always. Sometimes it's how they tell it.


Steph L. - Dec 15, 2009 3:03:50 pm PST #10673 of 28736
That which does not kill you should RUN

I could never watch Seinfeld because everyone annoyed me so much. Not that that was a book.

That's why I couldn't watch The Inside. As much as I wanted to get behind a Minear project, I found everyone on that show impossible to like.

I'm trying to think if there are any books that I read willingly in which I disliked the main character, or more than 1 character. I find almost all the characters in Wuthering Heights very unlikeable, but I had to read that for a class.


JZ - Dec 15, 2009 3:08:22 pm PST #10674 of 28736
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Most of the characters in Vanity Fair are either loathsome or contemptible (some, of course, are both), but Lordy it's a fun read.


Hil R. - Dec 15, 2009 3:14:46 pm PST #10675 of 28736
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Wuthering Heights was actually the book that got me started thinking about this. I don't like any of the characters, I think several of them are really horrible people, and most of the rest make ridiculously bad decisions for incredibly stupid reasons. But I still like reading it, because they do interesting things.


Steph L. - Dec 15, 2009 3:22:33 pm PST #10676 of 28736
That which does not kill you should RUN

I think several of them are really horrible people

Nelly Dean, the textbook example of an unreliable narrator. Eeeeeevil.


Strega - Dec 15, 2009 4:22:13 pm PST #10677 of 28736

Hil -- I don't need to like the characters in the sense that I'd want to be their friend, as long as I'm interested in the story. It can be an issue when I think I'm supposed to find characters incredibly likable/admirable, when in fact I want to punch them in the face.

I think that's a bigger issue for me with TV or movies, though. I know there was something recently where I was just like, "I hate these people too much to watch this." I'm not sure if that's because a book has more time to delve, or if it's because it's harder for me to overlook traits I don't like when they're being shown instead of imagined.


Atropa - Dec 15, 2009 4:26:40 pm PST #10678 of 28736
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I'm looking forward to partaking of American Psycho in one form or another, and I understand there's no liking to be had there.

Nope, not so much. But I think it's a great black comedy novel.