Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers
This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.
What used to be the heart of Hollywood?
Beats the fuck out of me. Whatever mythic place just west of Cordelia's Silverlake apartment they declared as the Hyperion's location.
We drove through Reseda on our way out of L.A., but I can't remember how long it took us to get from Burbank to Reseda because I was fiddling with the MP3 player so we could play Screenwriter's Blues. (There was a vague temptation to get off the 101 to look around, but as we were on our way to Camarillo for the night, it didn't happen.)
People? Is it a really bad idea of me to ask Gaiman in his journal FAQ thing about whether he'd be upset, hypothetically speaking, about people writing fanfic based on his works?
IIRC, he has been asked that before, and I think he's slightly wigged by the notion. But, this is old memory working. I'd email the divine Roz, and ask her instead.
That's probably a good idea, actually. Or, with me being shy and all, maybe I'll just ask her when I hook up with her in a couple of weeks. Yes. That's probably a better plan.
How long does it take to get from "what used to be the heart of Hollywood." to Reseda?
Theoretically? 30-40 minutes. Actuality? I'd say an hour and a half.
Theoretically? 40-45 minutes. Actuality? I'd say an hour and a half.
Thank you kindly.
As I recall, Gaiman's not utterly anti-fic. He thinks it's an acceptable way to learn to write, but he's more supportive of original work.
He's not Anne Rice, for instance. And he has written fic, since he wrote a story set in the Matrix universe, although that was, as I recall, upon request.
The thing of it is, though, that
The Sandman
is totally about storytelling, and about playing with narrative - blurring the lines between symbolic and literal, between fact and fiction. Gaiman doesn't just incorporate other people's fictional characters (from comics and from myths and folktales and plays etc) but he also incorporates real people. It's like an Uberfanfic thing, in a way. And
A Game of You
in particular plays games with reality and dream and reshaping other people's narratives and shit like that, but it's all about that, all the time. And the fact that Thompson's
At Death's Door
pulls a Rosencrantz and Guildenstern on
Season of Mists
underlines this for me - that storytelling and narrative games are explicitly what it's all about. Jebus, Gaiman's even a character in the comic himself, and I know they've drawn other
Vertigo
people into it too - and with
The Tempest
you've got Gaiman, Morpheus and Shakespeare all explicitly working as mirrors of one another. And the reader is sucked in as a character at times, with the use of the second person. It's all a big multilayering viewpointy thing. Um.
I'm not being very articulate, but I
am
being very soapboxy. Hmm. Sorry about that.
Plei is mostly me, with her comment about completeness. A TV-verse, and even sometimes a movie-verse, can feel like a world, and sort of meander and not have a story for a while, or drop one story (or character) and pick up another. Whereas most of the bookverses I've read feel like beginning-middle-end, and anything I were to add to it would pretty clearly not fit, except as "wouldn't it be nice" speculation (a topic I generally avoid).
Which is not to say there aren't bookverses that meander and world-build -- there used to be a whole series of Darkover fanfic short stories published in book form -- nor that TV series or movies aren't sometimes so seamless that I can't insert anything.
There was a point when I used to speculate about soap opera fanfic -- full of holes and dropped threads! -- but then I realized that with daily shows, you have to write your fanfic
really fast.
He's not Anne Rice, for instance. And he has written fic, since he wrote a story set in the Matrix universe, although that was, as I recall, upon request.
Plus there's the whole Narnia-slash thing.
I've read his commentary on fanfiction-as-writing recently enough (and I still think he's dead wrong about it, but that's neither here nor there), but my main mental hiccup is how he, personally, may feel about things being written about his own universes. And I seriously recall him being perhaps squirmy, as in, knowing it's out there, and being both flattered and mildly disturbed at the same time.
And the reader is sucked in as a character at times, with the use of the second person. It's all a big multilayering viewpointy thing. Um.
I know, but I still see it as complete in and of itself. Every thread in place to lead to the final scenes, and what not. A series of fragile connections that would be disturbed by the slightest alteration in course. It's part of what I love about it.
A series of fragile connections that would be disturbed by the slightest alteration in course
But don't you find there are a lot of non-canon violating things untold?