Yes, it's terribly simple. The good guys are always stalwart and true, the bad guys are easily distinguished by their pointy horns or black hats, and, uh, we always defeat them and save the day. No one ever dies, and everybody lives happily ever after.

Giles ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Rebecca Lizard - Dec 11, 2002 11:03:17 am PST #1448 of 10000
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

SF Bay Guardian had a column about Slash

Well, that was annoying.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 11, 2002 11:04:16 am PST #1449 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

What annoyed you so much, RL? I stayed calm.


Connie Neil - Dec 11, 2002 11:07:14 am PST #1450 of 10000
brillig

I think it was the anal sex and cries of joy with the Kirk/Spock thing. That's where I stopped reading.


Rebecca Lizard - Dec 11, 2002 11:08:20 am PST #1451 of 10000
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

It wasn't horrible, but it wasn't satisfying, and I'm always annoyed at the "by googling a phrase you now know about ALL the fandom" or "I talked to one person, and one group of people, and now I can speak authoritatively about everything wrt fic" methods of going about things. And more things; but I'm also just generally irritable, because my paper isn't going quite as well as I'd like, and my back hurts.


DavidS - Dec 11, 2002 11:08:49 am PST #1452 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I figured people would be annoyed since she doesn't specifically make clear the distinction between slash and fanfic in general. On the other hand, she was obviously a regular reader of slash.


Connie Neil - Dec 11, 2002 11:08:56 am PST #1453 of 10000
brillig

Lizard needs a back rub.


Steph L. - Dec 11, 2002 11:10:22 am PST #1454 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Lizard needs a back rub.

t offers one hand, as the other is actually doing work that I get paid for


Rebecca Lizard - Dec 11, 2002 11:11:43 am PST #1455 of 10000
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

I'm also annoyed because I'm writing my goddamned paper about what makes fic so shiny-- that you're assuming authorative power over someone else's work. In coded academic language, of course, and I'm using Elizabeth Alexander, a poet, and the poem I wrote as fic for her poem, but it's the same ideas. And no, no, no article I've ever read addressed what I think are the most important issues raised by fic. I think it's doable, and it ought to be done, but I haven't seen it. That's because people are stupid.

Yeah. I'm really spiny today. Why do you ask?


Steph L. - Dec 11, 2002 11:13:59 am PST #1456 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

t carefully avoids the spines


Rebecca Lizard - Dec 11, 2002 11:15:06 am PST #1457 of 10000
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

I love Steph.