Lorne: Take care of yourself and ah, make sure fluffy is getting enough love. Gunn: Did he have anything? Fred: No. And who's fluffy? Are you fluffy? Gunn: He called me fluffy? Fred: He said make sure…wait. You don't think he was referring to anything of mine that's fluffy, do you? Because that would just be inappropriate.

'Conviction (1)'


Buffista Music III: The Search for Bach  

There's a lady plays her fav'rite records/On the jukebox ev'ry day/All day long she plays the same old songs/And she believes the things that they say/She sings along with all the saddest songs/And she believes the stories are real/She lets the music dictate the way that she feels.


DXMachina - May 10, 2006 3:51:20 am PDT #3235 of 10003
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Is Stephin Merritt a racist because he doesn't like hip-hop?

I gotta admit, I dislike hip-hop and Beyoncé and Outkast, too.


DavidS - May 10, 2006 7:00:56 am PDT #3236 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Is Stephin Merritt a racist because he doesn't like hip-hop?

He likes early Run DMC. And he refers to Holland-Dozier-Holland in song. And he worships the Brill Building, which - admittedly mostly jewish songwriters - but lots of black performers. Mostly he's just a moldy fig. He prefers old pop to new pop. He likes ABBA, but so did Joe Strummer.

I don't doubt that he could talk about Billy Strayhorn's "Lush Life" for hours, or speak knowledgeably about Otis Blackwell's songwriting.


bon bon - May 10, 2006 7:05:30 am PDT #3237 of 10003
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

The other article in Slate, about "poptimism", is pretty invigorating: [link]


Hayden - May 10, 2006 7:18:51 am PDT #3238 of 10003
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Just talking about that article on another board. I think "Queen of the Savages" is the best example of Stephin Merritt as a performer flirting with racism, but I think its an example of willfully anachronistic songwriting rather than any true feelings of racism, like Robbie Fulks' song "White Man's Bourbon," which is a direct homage to "Ubangi Stomp." In other words, the taste is questionable, but I don't hear any hate.

Also, Hopper and Frere-Jones have their heads up their asses. That's usually not true of Frere-Jones, but the guy is certainly capable of being a dumb-ass every now and again. Just like anyone else, I guess.


Hayden - May 10, 2006 7:19:40 am PDT #3239 of 10003
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Was he that guy in that iPod ad?

Pfft. Kids today.


Jon B. - May 10, 2006 7:25:07 am PDT #3240 of 10003
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

From bon bon's link:

Undoubtedly there were plainchant rockists back in 13th-century France, thumbing their noses at that god-awful polyphony.

Ha! Gotta forward this to FAQWife, whose dissertation on the first known (13th Century) collection of popular music is off to the bindery this week!


DavidS - May 10, 2006 7:32:17 am PDT #3241 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The other article in Slate, about "poptimism", is pretty invigorating:

I don't know if I've ever seen an attempt to remake a canon without using negative examples. Something's always Out when you argue that something else is In (or Ideal). That was one of Malcolm McLaren's first provocations when he was still a stop owner, selling a t-shirt listing the Ins and Outs of the punk orthodoxy. (For the record: Pink Floyd was Out, Gene Vincent was In).

I'm thinking the poptimist stance has already become the new orthodoxy. It won't be hard to outflank an aesthetic that's occupying the middle. Whenever the cycle pushes too hard toward pure pleasure you get a responding chorus of punker-than-thou and keepin' it real and "real country not this Nashville crap" in response. And when the music takes itself so seriously that there's no fun, then pure pop (in each genre) reasserts itself.

(It's ridiculous though to say that John Cougar Mellencamp doesn't write pop songs, though.)


tommyrot - May 10, 2006 7:34:58 am PDT #3242 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

The other article in Slate, about "poptimism", is pretty invigorating: [link]

Cool. I was totally a proto-punk/punk/post-punk/alternative rockist for a long time. These days I have one foot in both the rockist and poptimist camps, but I think I still might have more weight on my rockist foot.

Hate the term "poptimism" though....


tommyrot - May 10, 2006 7:37:56 am PDT #3243 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Pfft. Kids today.

Heh.

I should mention that I've always loved Elvis (thanks largely to an uncle who owns every single Elvis record ever). I even remember where I was when I head he'd died....

These days, I suppose the rockist in me has me leaning more towards his Sun Studio stuff. His version of "Blue Moon" is one of the most amazing songs ever....


Hayden - May 10, 2006 7:42:27 am PDT #3244 of 10003
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Oh, yeah. I very rarely have patience for post-Sun Elvis.