Oh, wow. This place looks great. Oh, I feel like a witch in a magic shop.

Willow ,'Help'


Buffista Music III: The Search for Bach  

There's a lady plays her fav'rite records/On the jukebox ev'ry day/All day long she plays the same old songs/And she believes the things that they say/She sings along with all the saddest songs/And she believes the stories are real/She lets the music dictate the way that she feels.


Theodosia - Mar 28, 2006 11:24:13 am PST #2788 of 10003
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Music theory is an enigma wrapped in a roast beef sandwich to me.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 28, 2006 11:24:45 am PST #2789 of 10003
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Another stupid question: are bass guitars picked or plucked or strummed, generally?

Yes. Also, occasionally slapped.

t /not helpful


Sean K - Mar 28, 2006 11:25:55 am PST #2790 of 10003
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Another stupid question: are bass guitars picked or plucked or strummed, generally?

Plucked (with fingers, instead of say a pick or plectrum), thumped, thwaped, hammered, and occasionally bowed.


Sean K - Mar 28, 2006 11:26:16 am PST #2791 of 10003
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Though some people do play bass with a pick.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 28, 2006 11:27:36 am PST #2792 of 10003
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

contemplates bringing the Chapman Stick into the discussion to really confuse things


DXMachina - Mar 28, 2006 11:35:13 am PST #2793 of 10003
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Does Beat Girl even have a lead guitar? It sounds more like a bass to me, because I thought the horns were carrying the melody? (Granted, it's not what I'd term terribly melodic.)

The first two measures of Beat Girl are the lead guitar. The bass line comes in at the third measure, along with the drums and the (I think) trombone(s).

Maybe I'm being fooled because that "dim dim dim" sound seems played in a basslike manner.

Yup. They're playing it on one of the lower strings of the guitar.


katefate - Mar 28, 2006 11:42:16 am PST #2794 of 10003
Frail my heart apart and play me a little Shady Grove

Chapman Stick

Hee!

Theo, a standup bass (for my kind of music) pretty much needs to be plucked. The strings are thick. Although you can also bow a standup bass.

So music theory is Theo's math?

Dude, music theory *is* math. That's why I love to listen in on both types of conversations. Even though most of it is waaay over my head, it's always so damn sexy.


Hayden - Mar 28, 2006 11:50:23 am PST #2795 of 10003
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Bass is deeper and, uh, rounder (if that makes sense*) than the bassiest guitar line.

* And if it doesn't, picture the visual representation of the sound a string makes when picked. A guitar will typically rapidly ascend to a sharp peak and then slowly trail off, like a hill with a cliff on one side and a slow decline on the other. A bass, because the strings are thicker and range longer, will typically make more of a rising sound to the peak (which is more of a rounded than sharp peak) and will even more slowly trail off, like a bell curve with a long right tail. Guitar: say "pah." Bass: say "buh." Of course, this is only in situations of picked or plucked strings. Strummed and bowed strings are a completely different ball o' wax.


DavidS - Mar 28, 2006 12:28:49 pm PST #2796 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Heh. This is almost as much fun as teaching Allyson about Lord of the Rings.

Mike Mills (R.E.M.) is a very melodic bass player also. He tends to support the singer (Stipe), and Buck plays with the drummer. Usually it's singer/guitarist, bass/drums. Andy Rourke of The Smiths - also melodic.

Funkier, more rhythmic bass players tend to use their fingers and thumbs. There's a whole plucking thing going on. More melodic players tend to use a pick. (cf., Peter Hook always with an extra pick between his teeth)


Spidra Webster - Mar 28, 2006 12:30:43 pm PST #2797 of 10003
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

The first guy I think of when I think "melodic bass" is Paul McCartney. He often played contrapuntal melody. Colin Moulding is like that at times as well.